Moral Maze-Dec.8,/’14 – Postnatal Abortion / Prostitution Legislation Challenge

>> Michael: POSTNATAL ABORTION? PROSTITUTION? BODY PARTS? IT HAS TO BE MORAL MAZE THERE IS ALWAYS SO MUCH TO DISCUSS

MATTHEW WOJCIECHOWSKI, INTERESTING HOW PEOPLE HAVE DIFFICULT SUR NAMES TO PRONOUNCE >> IT'S A HIRING — >> Michael: THIS ONE, THE INTRODUCTION, POSTNATAL ABORTION ISN'T THAT INFANTSICIDE? >> YES, IT IS THIS A VERY SCARY CASE A PROFESSOR OF PHILOSOPHY AT QUEENS EUROPE, UDO, HE IS A PROMOTER

HE CAME OUT SAYING THAT HE WOULD PROMOTE THE NOTION OF PARENTS KILLING OFF THEIR NEWBORN BABIES, IF THEY DEEMED THAT THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE ISN'T UP TO PAR WITH THEIR OWN SO IT IS A FORM EVER INFANTSICIDE HE LINKS THIS TO ABORTION, THAT IS FOETUSES DON'T HAVE ANY RIGHTS, CHILDREN WHO ARE BORN SHOULD FALL INTO THE SAME CATEGORY >> Michael: WHAT ABOUT THE PHILOSOPHY? >> I WOULDN'T DO THAT, BUT IT'S A GOOD ARGUMENT >> Michael: HE IS TRYING TO MAKE A PROVOCATIVE PHILOSOPHICALLY POINTS? >> HE IS REFERRING TO THE NETHERLANDS WHERE THEY PASSED LAWS WHERE THEY CAN EUTHANIZE CHILDREN

HE IS A LCBO — LOBBYIST >> Michael: AN INTERESTING POINT, BECAUSE IF YOU BELIEVE THAT A PERSON HAS A RIGHT TO KILL A CHILD, TAKE THE LIFE OF AN UNBORN CHILD JUST BEFORE THAT CHILD COMES IN THE ROOM, A FEW SECONDS LATER, THE RIGHT TO KILL THE CHILD DISAPPEAR IF THERE IS A PROFOUND DISABILITY WITH THE CHILD, I THINK MANY PEOPLE — MANY PEOPLE SAY MAYBE IT'S THE KINDEST THING >> I WOULD AGREE, ACTUALLY, THE PEOPLE WHEN HAVE THE MENTALITY THAT IT'S OK TO KILL BABIES BEFORE THEY ARE BORN, FOR WHATEVER REASON, IF THEY HAVE A DISABILITY, MOST OF THESE PEOPLE WOULD BE OK KILLING THEM AFTER BIRTH AND THEY ARE OK WITH KILLING PEOPLE LIVING WITH DISABILITIES IN THE LATER STAGES OF THEIR LIFE

IT ALL FALLS INTO THE SAME GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO UNFORTUNATELY DON'T SEE THE INHERENT DIGNITY OF EVERY SINGLE HUMAN BEING, NO MATTER AT WHAT STAGE OF DEVELOPMENT, THEIR INABILITIES, ABILITIES, IT DOESN'T MATTER TO THESE PEOPLE IT'S UNFORTUNATE TO SEE THIS HAPPEN, BUT IT'S A DEBATE HAPPENING IN CANADA AND IT WILL ONLY CONTINUE >> Michael: I THINK IT DOES CRYSTAL EYES THE ARGUMENT, BECAUSE QUITE A FEW PEOPLE ARE PRO CHOICE AND THEY THINK, REALLY, IS THAT WHERE IT'S GOING? >> HE IS ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO COMPLETELY REJECT THE WHOLE NOTION OF THE SLIPPERY SLOPE WHEN IT COMES TO EUTHANIZATION WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE NETHERLANDS WHERE THERE IS A CLEAR SLIPPERY SLOPE, WHERE THEY EUTHANIZE — LEGALIZE EUTHANIZE >> Michael: I'M SURPRISED THIS ACADEMIC — QUEENS HAS A GOOD DEPARTMENT, I'M SURE HE IS, BUT THERE IS A SLIPPERY SLOPE, EVEN TO SUPPORT EUTHANASIA SAY THEY HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN IDEOLOGY MORE THAN A SENSE OF COME PASSION, WE LIVE IN A COUNTRY THAT IS MODERN, THAT IS PROGRESSIVE, INTELLECTUAL, YET WE ARE HAVING A DISCUSSION ABOUT KILLING BABIES BECAUSE OF THEIR DISABILITIES

IT'S OUTRAGEOUS >> Michael: THE PROSTITUTION LAW, PREMIER KATHLEEN WYNNE SAYS WE SHOULD REVIEW THE PROSTITUTION LAWS YOU WILL ALWAYS HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE WILLING TO SELL THEIR BABIES FOR SEX AND INVARIABLY WOMEN AND MEN WHO WILL PAY NOR THOSE BODIES I SUPPOSE IT'S HOW WE REGULATE AND CONTROL TO THE BEST OF THEIR ABILITY >> THE LAW SHOULD TEACH IT IS WRONG TO USE PEOPLE FOR THEIR OWN SEXUAL NEEDS

IT IS WRONG TO PURCHASE HUMAN BEINGS, THEIR BODIES >> Michael: PUTTING ASIDE ECONOMIC CIRCUMSTANCES, IF A WOMAN SAYS I WANT TO DO THIS, THIS IS THE WAY I WANT TO MAKE MONEY MEN ARE GOING TO PAY WHO ARE YOU TO SAY NO? >> MOST OF THE GOVERNMENT, THE CONSERVATIVE GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN CLAIMING THEY ARE PUTTING THIS LAW INTO EFFECT TO PROTECT THE VICTIMS THAT'S THE MAIN FOCUS

I'D SAY THE MAJORITY OF WOMEN AND MEN IN THE SEX TRADE WOULD BE VICTIMIZED LIKE YOU SAID THERE ARE A GROUP OF PEOPLE, THEY WANT TO DO IT BECAUSE THEY ARE COLLEGE GIRLS, THEY WANT TO GET MONEY TO PAY FOR TUITION I'VE HAD FRIENDS WHO HAVE DONE THIS WHERE DO WE PUT THOSE PEOPLE? I DISAGREE WITH THE WHOLE INDUSTRY ALTOGETHER, BUT IT IS DEFINITELY INTERESTING THAT KATHLEEN WYNNE IS TRYING TO BRING THIS INTO THE ONTARIO PERSPECTIVE WHERE SHE IS ASKING THE ATTORNEY GENERAL TO REVIEW WHAT IS HAPPENING >> Michael: THE APPROACH BEING THE PROOTSZ IS ALWAYS THE VICTIM AND MUST BE PROTECTED AND THE JOHN, THE MAN WHO BUYS THE SERVICES IS THE ONE WHO HAS TO FACE THE CONSEQUENCES AND THE LAW

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS COMPLETELY FAIR I THINK WE OVERREACT TO THIS ISSUE I REMEMBER GOING TO AMSTERDAM YEARS AGO, COMPLETELY LEGALIZED THERE WILL BE PEOPLE I DON'T WANT TO PAY THAT LEGAL OF TAXATION, I'LL DO WHATEVER I WANT TO DO ONE OF THE MORE PER VERSE FORMS OF SEX WERE REQUIRED SO A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL PROVIDE THAT

>> I BELIEVE THERE HAS TO BE A LAW ABOUT THIS, EVEN THOUGH IT WILL HAPPEN REGARDLESS, THERE SHOULD BE A LAW KATHLEEN WYNNE SAYS WE NEED TO PROTECT WOMEN WHO ARE VULNERABLE THE WAY TO PROTECT VULNERABLE WOMEN IS TO EMPOWER THEM, GIVE THEM OPTIONS, OPPORTUNITIES TO HAVE A GOOD JOB, GOOD EDUCATION YOU DON'T HAVE TO MAKE THESE CHOICES >> Michael: THE VAST MAJORITY OF WOMEN IF THEY HAD A DECENT ALTERNATIVE WOULD NOT SEEK PROSTITUTION AND THOSE COMING INTO THE COUNTRY ARE VICTIMIZED

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